what do people in hawaii need to do right now? >> they need to, if they are in the evacuation surge, they need to pack up and move out. if they are outside the evacuation zone they are fine. this -- so, you know, we don't want more people moving than have to move. >> in other words, if you know you are in an evacuation zone in hawaii, you know it because you live in the area, you can check on the internet, you are aware of where the zones are? >> the maps are in the phone book also. >> thank you. 3 hours from now, the wave is expected to arrive in hawaii, correct? >> yes, the first wave, it's less than that now, going to be 10:28 hawaii time, which is, what is that? that's -- oh, i'm sorry. i'm not good at converting time zones.